Jurgen Klopp described his never-saying that Liverpool team as mentality samples.
So what are Arsenal under Mikel Arteta?
On the back of this last collapse of the title, it is the mentality of English football.
Saturday's abject display in the Emirates was certainly confirmation that the club is waiting for a title, which is now 21 years old.
It is the longest gap of Arsenal for a title after the war and you have to wonder if Arteta is able to get them over the line.
This was their first Premier League defeat in 16 games and only the third of the season.
But this was an absolute must-win and Arsenal bottled it just when they had to show some B ******.
You can see why Arteta was so angry afterwards.
Conspiracy theoretics and there are certainly a few more about complaining about the red card of Myles Lewis-Skelly, their fifth of the season, where the team drops ten points in those competitions.
Unbelievable, this was the 20th broadcast in the top flight under Arteta, so it is absurd to blame the officials for them all.
Arsenal has had a number of bad decisions this period and Lewis-Skelly's mistake on Mohammed Kudus was on the half line.
But it was still a red card. Arteta has spent more than £ 600 million, so he is heavily supported by the club.
The decision not to sign No. 9 in the summer – or in January – was clearly ridiculous.
It would have helped. But if you look at this current team, you have to wonder if that will have solved all their problems because there are just so many flaky players in this team.
Due to the spectacular fall of Manchester City this season was a great opportunity for Arteta.
You can see why some fans of the club now have large reservations about their manager.
He will get even more money next summer.
But if Arsenal is in a similar situation in 12 months, the club can consider a change – even if it would break hearts.
Arteta was poorly hit by injuries this season and that is why the team has deteriorated.
And maybe they can still deliver something magical in the Champions League.
Yet in the past term, Liverpool suffered incredibly bad luck with injuries and while they fell away in the competition, the Klopp team somehow managed to win the Carabao Cup final against Chelsea – although they ended the game with a couple of teenagers.
Arsenal's approach to the West Ham game was completely wrong. There was a lack of faith, desire and intensity, as well as quality.
Similarly, the visitors defended excellent and new boss Graham Potter seems like a perfect fit.
In the past few seasons, the atmosphere at the Emirates is fantastic, the best since the move to the stadium in 2006.
Yet there was no buzz before or during this game. And it seemed as if the supporters had resigned from the fate of their team.
Mikel Merino was a two-target hero against Leicester against Leicester a week earlier in his first game as a central striker.
You can see why Arteta started him in this position due to the lack of options, but the Spaniard looked lost in advance.
The defense for the opening goal of Jarrod Bowen before the break was embarrassing, with Riccardo Calafiori decided not to take the trouble to stop an Aaron Wan-Bissaka cross.
Calafiori, buying a summer from £ 42 million from Bologna, is still adapting to the Prem, but this display was just not good enough.
Arteta's decision to relegate Lewis-Skelly to the bank was curious, especially since he was also replaced in Leicester, just a few minutes after he had delivered a stunning goal-saving intervention.
The only positive was the sight of defender Ben White who came back into action after three months.
Now Arteta has to lift his team for the difficult trip from Wednesday to Nottingham Forest.
And at the very least, the Arsenal players must start to show that they really give it.
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